Pig Boy

18 11 2009

In chapter six, Alice has a tough time trying to get into the house. Her and the footman have a long conversation about her getting in. The footman questions her as to why she knocks. I think that this is Carroll questioning why we do some things. He is saying that we do things that we really do not need to. Like in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, when she is knocking on the door even though the footman is outside. She does not need to knock because he is outside and the people inside would not be able to hear her anyways. Other than that, I do not know why Carroll would put that scene in the book.

As I was doing my blog, I read an interesting post, The Peppery Pig, from Brendon in Group 9, about the baby turning into a pig. Another point about that scene is that is is a reverse of the Duchess’s quote in Chapter 9,”Be as you would seem to be.” The baby was not as what it seemed to be. It turned out to be a pig which is strange for Carroll to have a baby turn into a pig. Is he saying that all babies end up turning into pigs? Carroll is hinting that babies will grow up and turn out to pigs. At first, the most interesting thing to me about that scene is that Carroll would contradict his idea, “Be what you would seem to be”, and the baby turning into a pig. But then I realized that the baby turning into a pig does not contradict his idea at all. The baby turning into a pig is what he says is supposed to happen. So after further analyzing, I had to change my thoughts, and I realized that Carroll had not contradicted his ideas after all.

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3 12 2009
Hagen F.

Your first paragraph was intriguing, and I very much am “on board’ with your idea. Why do we do things that are unnecessary? That is an interesting point; there was no reason for Alice to knock when there is a man outside permitting entrance or not. I’d have to say it is society molding us into what we do. So many of the little day-to-day actions we do are constituted by society. in other words, we do things because everyone else does and because that is the accepted idea/thing. The minute we break free from this and become an individual thinker, we create revolution. Just like the Enlightenment did for the later French Revolution.

I have to agree with Susie here, that I am “lost just like Alice” in your second paragraph. Humans are pigs? Are you really saying that we grow up to be (for lack of a better word) ‘disgusting’ and messy? I would have to agree with you there. We humans, as a species, have an uncommon knack to mess up already ideal situations. If that is what you mean (and knowing you and your intelligence, I think it is) then i heartily agree with you there.

3 12 2009
Darcy S.

Your blog post is very enjoyable to read, very factual and not trying to suggest things or uselessly play around with vocabulary. You have a good continuous voice as a writer through all your blogs as well, and that voice is hard to establish as a young writer.

The first paragraph is very true, in my opinion. Little children often perform their actions according to the formulas they have been taught and the mannerisms they observe in their world. In Alice’s world, she is taught to knock on the door. Even when it is unnecessary, she still will because when children doubt themselves they often stick with what they know. Interesting…

In your second paragraph, I would like to point out that the voice an author gives his/her characters is not necessarily their own voice. Yes, Golding definitely made his voice loud and clear in Lord of the Flies, but the Duchess is not the protagonist, and frankly not of any extreme significance to Alice. Therefore Carroll might not slip his ideas into this character.

27 11 2009
Susie C.

I agree with your first paragraph; Carroll had to have some reason to include the rather pointless scene between Alice and the Footman. When you said, “He is saying that we do things that we really do not need to,” I thought of a point Carroll could have been trying to make with this passage. Alice knocks on the door because that is how custom dictates one asks for entry. When the Footman tells Alice, “There’s no sort of use in knocking,” she responds, “Please, then, how am I to get in?” She has no idea what to do when the circumstances go outside of what custom tells her to do. Perhaps Carroll is suggesting that society and its customs form us into thoughtless rule followers instead of logical, individual thinkers.

I agree with your first paragraph, but I am afraid you lost me in your second paragraph. Are you suggesting that children are pigs, and therefore the pig baby is what it seems to be? If so, I do not agree with you at all.

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